| The IPO Report Start-Up Calculates Its Way To Profits by Tom Taulli
Nov. 13, 1997
Tom Taulli is the publisher of the Taulli Report, an
online investment site. You can reach him at tom@taulli.com
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With the tremendous growth in technology,
individual investors have nearly
the same access to financial information, products, and services that an
institution has. Sounds great, right? Well, there's a problem: How do
you know what's the best product to buy? What's the best investment
strategy? Should you invest in a deductible IRA, a Roth IRA, or an
education IRA?
Financenter, based in Tucson
Ariz., has a
variety of investment calculators that help you find the best strategies,
as well as the best investment deals. The calculators help you with such
things as retirement, credit cards, insurance, auto loans, home loans,
budgeting, and investments. My favorite one is aptly titled: "What
will it take to become a millionaire?"
I had an opportunity to interview the founder and CEO of Financenter,
Sherri Neasham.
: What gave you
the idea for this company?
: My background is
in finance, not computer science. Over the
years, I have been consulting for mortgage brokers, banks, and other
financial institutions. It was actually my brother who said I should
do something on the Net. This was in late 1994.
: Back in 1994,
did you think the Net would get so big, so fast?
: It took me by
surprise. But I'm not complaining.
: How did you
finance your company?
: I used my own
money to get my company off the ground. So far, we
have yet to use outside capital. Although, we have a commitment from an
angel who is willing to inject cash into the company. But we haven't run
out of cash.
: Often an angel
is also a mentor. Is that the case here?
: Absolutely. He
has provided much help for my company.
: How important
are mentors?
: Very important.
However, you can realistically only have a few
mentors. I have about three. To have more would likely mean I'm spending
too much time talking to people instead of taking action.
On the Net, action is critical. You really don't know until you try it.
There's a lot of trial and error.
For example, in late 1995, we experimented with the idea of providing a way
for consumers to obtain mortgage loans online. This was a radical idea.
There was not much research on the subject. We didn't know if people would
be confident.
The only way we could find out was by taking action.
: Your company is
actually profitable.
: That's right.
: What steps have
you taken to accomplish this?
: Since we are on
the Net, we can have very low overhead. However,
if we were a traditional financial institution -- such as a brokerage, bank,
and so on -- this would not be the case.
The other factor is we have something people want. People want a
way to make good financial decisions. We also cater to those who are in
the do-it-yourself category and do not want pressure from sales people.
Finally, we are able to provide the best rates nationwide on financial
products.
Interestingly enough, we have zero advertising costs. Our model is
syndicated selling. In other words, we contact various Websites, such as
for banks, mutual funds, and other financial institutions, then license
our calculators to them.
: Besides
syndicated selling, are there other revenue sources?
: A major area is
providing financial services. You can, for
instance, get an online credit report and a home appraisal from our site.
Another great service is to be able to have a chat session with a Certified
Financial Planner.
We have a real estate broker referral service. So, if you want to buy a
house, you can submit a form and we can find a broker near you. The broker
also must meet certain requirements. The broker must have five or more
years of full-time experience and has earned one or more professional or
education designations.
The way we make money is by getting a referral fee. But we do not take the
whole fee. In fact, we give much of it back to the customer. It's a
pretty novel concept. Customers always get a thrill when they get a check
in the mail for $1,000.
: Java has taken
the tech market by storm. Are you using it?
: We are
developing a product in Java. Basically, it is
an enhanced asset allocation program. That is, the user will input a
variety of personal information. For example, the user might state that he
will not play the lotto, or is not comfortable if the market goes down by
10 percent. In other words, we have questions that help determine a user's
risk
profile. Next, the program will run through a myriad scenarios, which are
based on economic data going back to 1950.
We are also in the early stages of developing a financial planning system.
We are likely to use Java for it. The financial planning system will look
at the entire life cycle of a person.
But Java has problems. It can be a pain in the neck. In fact, Java is not
always compatible between the different browsers.
: What's the
makeup of the employees of the company?
: Right now, about
75 percent are technical. The reason is that we have
been developing a large number of calculators. But, now our next step is
to hire more marketing people.
: Do you have your
own server?
: No. We
outsource this. A main reason is there are many
good hosting companies who have the latest technologies. Also, I rather
have my company focus on developing financial calculators, not creating Web
servers.
: How long, on
average, does it take to create a calculator?
: It depends. For
complex calculators, it can take six months or
more. This was the case with our retirement calculator. But some
calculators are not difficult and may only take several days to create.
: Do you do any
custom projects?
: We try to stay
away from this. We like to consider ourselves
manufacturers, not tailors.
But this does not mean we do not listen to the customer. Just the
opposite. We listen very closely and try to make changes as fast as
possible.
We are coming out with a new calculator that is programmable. This, in a
sense, will allow for extensive customization of the interface of the
calculator.
: What calculators
are you working on?
: With the new tax
legislation passed by Congress this year, we are
coming out with the Roth-IRA calculator. We are also coming out with a
relocation calculator. For example, suppose you get a job offer, but you
must move to another state. This calculator will attempt to show if it
makes sense to change jobs.
: Who are your
competitors?
: We have lots of
them. Perhaps our biggest one is Intuit, the
creator of Quicken.
But we feel we have some advantages. First of all, our tools are geared
for making decisions, not keeping track of checking balances. A great
example is our relocation calculator.
Our business model is different. We rely on syndicated selling, whereas
Intuit sells directly to the consumer.
Also, because we are small, we are able to move quickly.
: Based on your
experience, have you seen more and more people
buying financial services online?
: Definitely.
Here are some stats. From October 1996 to July
1997, the requests for loans from our site has increased by 184 percent.
As for
auto purchases, this has increased by 380 percent.
: Your site is
very easy to use and navigate. What are some of the
strategies you use to make a great financial Website? What are the
problems many finance Websites have?
: The site must
load quickly. The longer the wait, the higher the
likelihood the visitor will go elsewhere. The site must be clean and have
few distractions.
Very important is to provide only the important information. Finance is
not easy. It can be very intimidating. Stay away from the jargon.
Also, don't have sales pitches. This tends to scare away people.
Finally, don't give too many choices. This can confuse people.
: Where do you see
your company in five years?
: That's a long
time. We instead like to look at the next three
years. Our goal is not necessarily to do an IPO. Rather, our goal is to
become the Costco of financial services. That is, we want to provide
high quality at great prices. With our site, I want people to find the
best deals and to execute decisions efficiently. In a way, we are giving
people legal inside information. We are giving them the power to save
money.
For comments/questions, contact Tom Taulli at ttaulli@bpia.com.
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